Charles and Jon talk to Stratton Hatfield and Koen Betjes, two conservation researchers involved in a range of fascinating work in Africa. We cover a lot of ground from Giant Pangolin research in Kenya to the importance of taxonomy for conservation and mammal listing. The pair talk about how they have just - together with Charles - solved the mystery of a mysterious mongoose, a case worthy of Sherlock Holmes. And Stratton and Koen run through a set of mammal encounters guaranteed to send any ...

Charles Foley and Jon Hall talk to mammalwatchers, biologists, conservationists and those with a passion for observing and protecting the world's wild mammals. For more information visit www.mammalwatching.com/podcast.Dr Charles Foley  is a mammalwatcher and biologist who, together with his wife Lara, spent 30 years studying elephants in Tanzania. They now run the Tanzania Conservation Research Program at the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago. Jon Hall set up mammalwatching.com in 2005. Genetically Welsh, spiritually Australian, currently in New York City. He has looked for mammals in over 100 countries.Produced and edited by  José G. Martínez-Fonseca, mammalwatcher, photographer and wildlife biologist.