Welcome back to a brand new episode of Seated with Lebo & Thato! Before diving into this week's heavy hitter, we catch up on Thato’s 29th birthday. He shares the full story behind the surprise romantic getaway his girlfriend meticulously planned,from late-night Pinterest plotting to a beautifully scheduled road trip out of the city to see the stars. Then, we tackle one of the most hotly debated topics on the internet right now: What exactly makes a "high value man" in South Africa? If you think being high value is simply about having a high income, you might need to rethink your definition. We unpack the crucial differences between financial status and genuine character , and discuss why so many men who confidently claim the title are actually missing the mark.Hit play to join the conversation and let us know your thoughts!