I chat with Dr. Tommy J.Curry, Texas A&M professor of philosophy, about his book "The Man-Not: Race, Class, Genre and the Dilemmas of Black Manhood." Using social dominance theory as the backdrop to explain the subjugated caste-like position of black males in the United States, Curry advocates for a study of black males in the American academy that utilizes data as opposed to relying on centuries-old stereotypes propagated in literature that depict black men and boys as brutes and patriarchs. Real-world data suggest that this is far from the case——they are largely victims of a racialized hierarchy that seems bent on their eventual extermination through various means, direct and indirect.