"You have to lead with governance," says Gib Hedstrom. 

How are we going to create value? How do we truly integrate ESG into our purpose? How do we integrate ESG into our operations and culture?

These are some of the meaty questions we dig into on in this episode. Gib Hedstrom has been working in the space for many years and works with a wide variety of companies in advancing their business impact goals. His work on ESG Navigator has given him a front-row seat on how companies are designing strategies to reap and provide value. And his take on the need for more of a focus on strategy and governance is much needed.