Marlene McCallum is a skilled executive coach who works with Fortress CEO Joel Mathew. The two sat down together to discuss life’s most important lessons; among these are that humans are not fixed and can evolve and change to become better leaders, better business owners, and better people. Listen to this episode in full to hear what advice Marlene would give people who are interested in the work that she does. The moral of the story is to do the hard work, get uncomfortable, and take responsibility.