Making Space with Hoda Kotb
Making Space with Hoda Kotb
Hoda Kotb, TODAY
Esther Perel on Why Desire Fades and How to Find Romance Again
37 minutes Posted Jul 29, 2026 at 10:00 am.
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Most people spend their lives trying to find a relationship that works, but psychotherapist and bestselling author Esther Perel believes that just living day to day isn't the same as truly feeling alive. In this deeply moving conversation from Making Space, the relationship expert sits down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on why passion often fades in partnerships and how couples can bridge the distance when they start to drift apart. She and Hoda explore the delicate balance between love and desire, discussing why the space we keep, the mystery we preserve, and the ways we ignite ourselves matter in a world that often feels contactless.