Terry Brooks sits down with Dr. Helen Deines, Larry Michalczyk, and Pam Darnall, three experts with years of experience in the child welfare field, to discuss the Courier Journal’s recent series on Kentucky’s child welfare system and the need to address the Commonwealth’s high rate of child abuse. Tune in to hear their reflections and calls to action. This episode is a follow up to the Making Kids Count episode featuring Rick Green and Debby Yetter of the Courier Journal.