We had such a great waffle with KJ Stjernström; topics included driving, lasers, main-stream media, electrical engineering, jobs that won't exist in the future and good & bad ICT practices. We hope you enjoy it too.  We did, which is why there are gaps in the audio as we were laughing so much.

A list of some of the people and key things we mentioned, with links to where they can be found, is in the description of the YouTube video for this episode: https://youtu.be/vG46vEMy7p4

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