Back to a more reasonable, sub-marathon, length this week, although in our chat with Claire we still cover a huge range of topics from covid to education, shopping trollies and, of course, making.

A long list of most of the people and things we mentioned, with links to where they can be found, is in the description of the YouTube video for this episode: https://youtu.be/ROoIhd0wA2I

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And our personal accounts are: Jamie Reader: Instagram   Andy Pugh: Instagram  & YouTube .