Crystals: apparently, they hold magic and energy and healing powers or something but maybe they're just fuckin' ROCKS? Ever think of that? They're rocks somebody found on the ground! Welp, some people think they aren't just the earth's garbage! Hayley Marie Norman, for instance.

Hayley Marie Norman is an actress, model, outspoken vegan, and wonderful, funny woman! You can see her in stuff like Top Five, Adam Ruins Everything, Comedy Bang Bang!, and so many other cool projects! Check her out on instagram @hipslipsandfingertips

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