Robby speaks with Anna Filina, a software consultant at Zenika Montreal who specializes in legacy code. They discuss why engineers don't have to ask permission to write tests, why convincing people to get on board with your technical plans matters, and what a "software archaeologist" really does.<h2>Helpful links:</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Working-Effectively-Legacy-Michael-Feathers/dp/0131177052">Working Effectively with Legacy Code by Michael Feathers</a></li><li><a href="https://www.zenika.ca/">Zenika Montreal</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/afilina">Anna Filina on Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/AnnaFilina">Anna Filina on Youtube</a></li></ul><h3>Subscribe to Maintainable on:</h3><ul><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/maintainable/id1459893010">Apple Podcasts</a></li><li><a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1459893010/maintainable">Overcast</a></li></ul>Or search "Maintainable" wherever you stream your podcasts.<a href="https://discord.com/invite/u8BwA2kvyu" target="_blank">Join the discussion in the Maintainable Discord Community</a>Brought to you by the team at <a href="https://www.planetargon.com/">Planet Argon</a>.
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James Smith: What if We Measured Software with a Stability Score?

Feel like you’re hitting a wall with your existing software projects? You're not alone. On the Maintainable software podcast, we speak with seasoned practitioners who have worked past the problems often associated with technical debt and legacy code.

In each episode, our guests will share stories and outline tangible, real-world approaches to software challenges. In turn, you'll uncover new ways of thinking about how to improve your software project's maintainability. We're in this together. Enjoy the show!