Jake Robins of the WeMartians Podcast joins me to discuss the state and future of the Mars exploration program, lean sample return, and more.

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• Mars Exploration Program, Thomas H. Zurbuchen, NASA SMD Associate Administrator, Presentation to National Academies (PDF, 1.9MB)
• NASA proposes rapid Mars sample return architecture - SpaceNews.com
• NASA considers kicking Mars sample return into high gear | The Planetary Society
• A future comes into focus for the Mars Exploration Program | The Planetary Society
• Space Policy Edition #16: NASA's Flagship Missions: Are They Worth It? | The Planetary Society
• Powering Science: NASA’s Large Strategic Science Missions | The National Academies Press
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