Episode 57: Pop Haydn, 7 time “Performer of the Year” for the Academy of Magical Arts and a certifiable genius, sits down with Elliott to discuss magic and story, character development and backstory, the Magic Castle in the 70’s, and so much more. This episode is dense with gold. Head over to Patreon.com/MagicalThinking to see BTS pictures from the episode, including Dai Vernon’s joke napkin. Enjoy!

(Ep 58) Scot Nery

For over a decade, host Elliott Terral has been consumed by the art of magic. He’s been fortunate to travel the globe and meet some of the greatest magicians the world has ever seen. Magical Thinking serves to share deep, revealing conversations with some of the best creative thinkers, philosophers, and practitioners of conjuring and the performing arts about inspiration, creativity, successes and failures, and what it all means.