Episode 49: Shane Cobalt sits down to talk magic history, crediting, audience management and appreciation and more. Elliott and Shane have been friends for several years, and they get deep into several obscure stories from magic history. Enjoy!

(Ep 50) Frank Olivier

For over a decade, host Elliott Terral has been consumed by the art of magic. He’s been fortunate to travel the globe and meet some of the greatest magicians the world has ever seen. Magical Thinking serves to share deep, revealing conversations with some of the best creative thinkers, philosophers, and practitioners of conjuring and the performing arts about inspiration, creativity, successes and failures, and what it all means.