Not so long ago, I published a blog comparing and contrasting SMART Recovery with the Life Process Program. 

Shortly after doing so, The president of SMART Recovery wrote to me and offered reflections on the piece. That made me a little nervous.... but he liked the blog. (WHEW!)

But he did have a bone to pick with me.... I wrote that SMART Recovery is an abstinence-based program and, evidently, they are no longer focused on abstinence from drugs, alcohol or any other involvement.

I invited him on the LPP Podcast to explain. 

Enjoy this episode with Dr. Tom Horvath! 

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