Hosts Ashley Barbour and Iva Ballou sit down with Dr. Leanne Magee, a pediatric psychologist from Children's Hospital of Philadelphia who specializes in working with children with appearance differences, for a thoughtful discussion on the critical intersection of mental health and cleft care. We explore Dr. Magee’s unique role on the cleft care team, strategies for addressing bullying, and the importance of building confidence in children and adults alike. Our conversation also touches on the challenges of accessing mental health care within the cleft community, insurance barriers, and the often-misunderstood aspects of psychosocial care. Mentioned:Dr. Leanne Magee at Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania Cleft Con 2020 Session Cleft Con 2021 Session Cleft Con 2022 Session Cleft Con NYC Session American Cleft Palate Craniofacial Association Patients & Families ResourcesSmile Train Community ProgramsIf you like the show, be sure to subscribe, leave a review, follow us on social, and tell all your friends to listen. Questions or episode ideas? Email us at [email protected]. We can't wait to hear from you.Transcripts are available at smiletrain.org/lovemeetsjoy Follow Ashley on IG at CleftLoveIG and Facebook at CleftLove  Follow Iva on IG at RealSophisticatedJoy and Facebook at RealSophisticatedJoy Love Meets Joy is produced by Smile Train, the world’s largest cleft-focused organization, with a sustainable and local model of supporting surgery and other forms of essential care. Over the last 25+ years, Smile Train has supported safe and quality cleft care for 2+ million children and will continue to do so until every child in need with a cleft has access to the care they deserve. Learn more here.