Why is it so hard to fire bad teachers and bad cops? Ravi sits down with Robert Gordon and Nick Bagley to discuss the problems with public sector unions—how they use political influence, protect ineffective workers, and make it difficult to reward excellence. They explore how a small number of poor performers can have an outsized impact on schools, policing, and public trust, and examine what states that have successfully reformed these systems are doing differently. ––––––––Nick and Robert's recent piece in The Argument: https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/democrats-should-fire-bad-teachersLost Debate▪️Subscribe to our YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@LostDebate▪️Get show notes and email updates - https://thelostdebate.substack.com/▪️Follow us - @thebranchmediaRavi Gupta◾ Pre-Order Ravi’s new book The Invisible List -  https://readinvisiblelist.com/◾Join the Invisible Posse -  https://readinvisiblelist.com/posse◾Read Ravi’s Substack - https://realravigupta.substack.com ◾Follow Ravi - https://www.instagram.com/ravimgupta/Host: Ravi GuptaGuests: Nicholas Bagley and Robert Gordon