A talk with Ben Fishman about losing his parents and reckoning with an empty nest. Also in this episode, how workplace dynamics shape a sense of self, and how moving a lot as a kid impacted his sense of stability today.

Ben is a graphic designer and artist. He's also my dad!

New conversations every other Wednesday. Send questions or thoughts any time to [email protected].

Music used in this edited episode:

One Two 3 4 by Origami Repetika (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/legalcode)

Cattails by Kevin MacLeod (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode)

Acoustic Meditation by Jason Shaw (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/us/legalcode)