Clay Schmitz and David Kukkola sit down at Blue Jay Herbs to discuss herbal medicine and Shiatsu.  Beginning with having his Thyroid radiated as a baby and turning to herbs and Shiatsu for healing.   He also tells the story of a client getting relief from gout with Blue Jay Herbs. More knowledge, books, and courses: https://clayschmitz.com/ https://clayisland.com/ David Kukkola: https://www.bluejayherbs.com/ More videos: https://www.livingtraditional.com/