What is your role in dismantling institutional racism? Can you dismantle racism from within the police force? On this episode Jay and KB sit down with a sixteen year NYPD veteran officer, Ritchie Baez. Although Ritchie is a member of law enforcement, he is both an Afro-Latino man and a servant of Christ first. Fully ready to engage in a discussion about our current state, Ritchie dives deep into history while describing the racism that exist within the NYPD. In fact, he is one of the NYPD 12, the 12 officers who are speaking out against systemic racism in the NYPD. He is also featured in the Emmy award winning documentary Crime and Punishment, now streaming on Hulu. During this episode Ritchie offers up some solutions to end racism in the NYPD. Despite whether you agree or disagree with what he says, it is a valuable discussion. We also had the opportunity to discuss the current climate of black folks and law enforcement after the murder of George Floyd. Officer Ritchie gives us much to think about, and we ask that you continue these conversations with your own communities. The work is still not done, and we need each other as we look to dismantle racism.