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Summary
This conversation explores the progression of God’s purpose for believers—from being predestined in Christ to ultimately being glorified and walking in the fullness of God. The speakers emphasize that the Kingdom of God requires a spiritual determination, a “violence of spirit,” that refuses to remain on a lower level of life and presses into the presence and purposes of God. Romans 8 is presented as a key passage revealing that God’s work of salvation—from foreknowledge to glorification—is spoken of in past tense. Believers are called to be conformed to the image of Christ in spirit, soul, and body, not merely experiencing inward redemption but moving toward a full expression of Christ’s life. The conversation highlights that this fulfillment is not meant to occur through isolated spiritual individuals but through a corporate Body of believers functioning together in love and unity. As the Body of Christ grows into maturity, faith becomes collective—where one member’s strength supports another. Through this unity, the life of Christ can be manifested more fully. Ultimately, the speakers point to a time when the glory of God will be revealed through His people. As believers step into their identity as sons of God and walk in the fullness of Christ’s life, creation itself will experience freedom through the revealing of God’s children.Show Notes
Pressing Into the Kingdom
- The Kingdom of God advances through spiritual determination and pursuit.
- Believers must shake themselves free from spiritual ruts and press into the presence of the Lord.
- The call is to rise to the level where Christ is and dwell in the Father’s presence.
Conformed to the Image of Christ
- Romans 8 reveals that believers are predestined to become like Christ.
- This transformation involves the whole person—spirit, soul, and body.
- The life of Christ is meant to be manifested through believers.
A Corporate Fulfillment
- God’s ultimate purpose is not fulfilled through one spiritual hero.
- The fulfillment of Scripture requires a family of believers walking together in love.
- The Body of Christ functions collectively, with shared faith and mutual support.
The Atmosphere God Has Been Waiting For
- Love, humility, and service toward one another create the environment where God’s purposes can unfold.
- Laying aside self allows the Body to move together into the fulfillment of God’s promises.
The Hope of His Coming
- The coming of Christ is not only future but is also being completed within His people.
- Persistent faith and prayer bring the manifestation of what God has spoken.
Refusing a Lesser Level
- Believers are called to refuse living on a lower spiritual plane.
- The “violence of spirit” is a determination to walk in the level God intends.
The Glory Revealed Through the Sons of God
- Romans 8 reveals that creation itself awaits the revealing of the sons of God.
- As believers step into their identity and glorification, creation experiences freedom.
Key Quotes
Mike: “Sometimes we just gotta shake ourselves loose in the spirit and go after things in the Lord.” Trisha: “We are predestined from Romans eight to be conformed to the image of Christ… spirit, soul, and body.” Roger: “It cannot be fulfilled except in a family of people who really have given their lives one to another, to love each other.” Ken: “We refuse to live on a lesser plane, a lesser level, but insist on being where God is bringing forth His people.” Roger: “Where we're lacking, one is lacking faith that's made up for by somebody else's faith that we can go on into the fullness of God.” Mike: “If we've been glorified, then creation is set free to come into the glory of the sons of God.”Scriptural References
- Matthew 11 (12)“The Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.”
- John 14 (2–3)“In My Father’s house are many dwelling places… that where I am, there you may be also.”
- Romans 8 (28–30)Predestined, called, justified, and glorified.
- Romans 8 (19–21)Creation waits for the revealing of the sons of God.
- Malachi 4 (2)“You will go out leaping like calves released from the stall.”
- John 9 (1–3)The blind man healed so that the works of God might be displayed.
- Luke 18 (1–8)The persistent widow before the unjust judge.
- 1 Thessalonians 5 (23)“May your spirit and soul and body be kept blameless.”