Take #36! Welcome to SEASON 5 of Listen! I chat with my lovely guest Eliot Schrefer—he is aNew York Times bestselling author, is a science writer, has twice been a finalist for the National Book Award for Young People’s Literature, received the Stonewall Honor for best LGBTQIA+ teen book, and received the Printz Honor for best young adult book from the American Library Association. What a LIST.

Eliot and I discuss the themes of mental health and intimacy inThe Darkness Outside Usand new sequelThe Brightness Between Us, dive into the power of media in processes of catharsis and identity formation, explore the complexity of life and our hidden selves in literature, and more. Welcome to...Listen!