Martha Cinader goes into deepthink mode with Meredith Leigh, author of The Ethical Meat Handbook and thinker of thoughts still asking to be manifested. With the optimism that blossoms with Spring, the conversation focuses on alternatives to capitalism, honoring indigenous wisdom, revolutionary madness, books that inspire and more! This one-hour special is an ongoing seasonal series produced in association with Laura Lengnick, founder of Cultivating Resilience, and Martha Cinader for Listen & Be Heard. The purpose is to create an open discussion with experts that is both informative and imaginative and inspires a path to nurturing and resilience for everyone.