How does Jeff Bezos keep getting richer? What’s up with Kanye’s sneaker empire? Is Kim Kardashian really a self-made woman? These are the types of topics we’ll unpack on Listed, a conversation show about the people, money and power on Forbes’ famous lists. Cohosts, listologists and Forbes editors Maggie McGrath and Abram Brown break down how these people influence and change the world by talking with the Forbes writers who know them best.
Rich Candidate, Poor Candidate
Presidential races are all about money, and the amount a candidate raises can make or break a campaign. For this special Super Tuesday episode, however, Forbes senior editor Dan Alexander is here to tell us why the candidates' personal wealth matters way more than meets the eye, whether they are millionaires, billionaires, or none of the above. Further reading: The Net Worth Of Every 2020 Presidential Candidate Trump Has Now Shifted $1.9 Million From Campaign Donors to His Business Here are the Billionaires Funding The Democratic Presidential Candidates Filings Show Michael Bloomberg Spent Nearly Half A Billion Dollars On His Own Campaign In Three Months See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at
Mar 3, 2020
38 min
Secrets of the Highest-Paid Podcasters
Everyone has a podcast these days, but sadly for Maggie and Abe, very few shows make millions of dollars for their hosts. How do Joe Rogan and the My Favorite Murder duo make it happen? Entertainment reporter Ariel Shapiro just finished the first Forbes list of the highest-earning podcasters. If anyone can tell us the secret, she can! Read Ariel Shapiro's coverage of top-earning podcasters here: Crime Does Pay: ‘My Favorite Murder’ Stars Join Joe Rogan As Nation’s Highest-Earning Podcasters See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at
Feb 25, 2020
36 min
All The Queen's Riches
Forbes has covered the wealth of royal families around the world since long before Harry and Meghan “stepped away” to seek their own fortunes. This week, Maggie and Abe tap a handful of Forbes staff—including a colleague from across the pond—to discuss how we understand the wealth of the world’s royals and of Queen Elizabeth herself, and what Harry and Meghan have to look forward to as they go it alone. For further reading on the royals: ‘Megexit’ Millions: How Harry And Meghan Can Write A New Chapter—And Get Royally Rich Harry And Meghan Need $3 Million-Plus To Be ‘Financially Independent.’ Here’s How They May Do It Baby Archie’s Great-Granny Is Royally Loaded: Inside Queen Elizabeth’s $500 Million Fortune The Royal Family Is Getting Increasingly Expensive For UK Taxpayers See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at
Feb 18, 2020
30 min
The Problematic Bumble Billionaire
Bumble, the dating app where women make the first move, has built its business around messages of female empowerment. Its success landed cofounder and CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd in the spotlight and on multiple Forbes lists. Thanks to the reporting of Forbes’ Angel Au-Yeung, however, some shocking allegations about Bumble’s other cofounder, Andrey Andreev, have come to light, and the consequences are still unfolding. This week, Angel tells us all about her investigation. Article links for this episode: Exclusive Investigation: Sex, Drugs, Misogyny and Sleaze at the HQ of Bumble's Owner Blackstone To Buy Russian Billionaire’s Bumble Stake After Forbes Investigation Into His Companies Abe's "Last But Not Least" See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at
Feb 11, 2020
30 min
Kids on YouTube are Making Millions
Children and gamers dominate the Forbes list of Top Earning YouTube Stars. Two of the top three are under 10 years old. How do content makers who are kids—or who target them—turn their views into millions in annual income? Entertainment Reporter Maddie Berg is back to tell us how they do it, and whether they can keep it going. Article links for this episode: The Highest Paid Youtube Stars of 2019: The Kids Are Killing It Is It Possible to Become the Next Big Youtube Star in 2020? Youtube Disables Personalized Ads, Comments on Children’s Videos Maggie’s "Last But Not Least" See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at
Feb 4, 2020
33 min
Power Women of the World
From Angela Merkel to Melinda Gates, Rihanna to Greta Thunberg… Publisher of ForbesWomen Moira Forbes is in the studio to talk about the world’s 100 most powerful women. She'll tell us what makes a “power woman” today, and what’s shifted over the decades. Articles discussed in this episode include: The World’s 100 Most Powerful Women (Forbes) edited by Moira Forbes and Maggie McGrath Who Invented the Dishwasher…? (USA Today) See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at
Jan 28, 2020
29 min
Choosing Wisely with Under 30 Founder Jessie Zeng
Welcome to “Listed” Season Two! Maybe Maggie and Abe don’t like shopping, but they love getting into the heads of the accomplished entrepreneurs on the Forbes 30 Under 30 lists. This week, our hosts chat with Jessie Zeng, the founder of online fashion retailer Choosy. Zeng shares what it's like to make an Under 30 list, how she wants to make fashion less wasteful, and why hiring your best friends is actually a good idea. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at
Jan 21, 2020
29 min
Ho, Ho—How Much is Santa Worth?
At Forbes, we scrutinize the fortunes of fictional characters—like Jolly Old St. Nick—as carefully as the ones that belong to real life billionaires. On this special minisode (the last of 2019), Executive Editor Michael Noer, creator of the Fictional 15 list of the world’s richest fictional characters and one-time Santa scholar, stops by the studio to talk about the rich, powerful and totally made up.  See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at
Dec 17, 2019
19 min
How to Get Ahead with Steve Forbes
Forbes Editor-in-Chief Steve Forbes has been coaxing stories and insights from the world's richest and most powerful since before Maggie and Abe were born. He also has his own Forbes podcast, "What's Ahead." In this special crossover minisode, Steve stops by to impart what he's learned. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at
Dec 10, 2019
17 min
George Lucas: A Real Force
With Star Wars Episode 9 about to premiere next month, Maggie’s Mom (aptly) suggested we look back at the career of billionaire movie man George Lucas. Forbes Entertainment Editor Rob LaFranco joins us in the studio to analyze the singular rise of the highest grossing auteur in the known universe. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at
Nov 19, 2019
25 min
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