In this conversation, Tom Rundel and Jeremie Wilson explore the intersection of music, social commentary, and personal reflection. The discussion delves into the influence of U2 on contemporary music, the role of songwriting in addressing social injustices, and the emotional power of music as a form of escapism. Throughout the conversation, themes of love, hope, and the human experience are highlighted, emphasizing the importance of music in fostering connection and understanding in a complex world. Pt 2 of 4

132a: What Are We Afraid Of: Song Only

Welcome to the Liminal Living Podcast, where we dive deep into the realm of liminal spaces—those transitional phases where uncertainty is our companion. I'm your host and curator of conversations, Dr. Tom Rundel, and it's my pleasure to serve as your guide through these uncharted territories. With a doctoral background in spirituality and leadership from Portland Seminary, my research has centered on the spirituality found in the narratives of liminality in the Bible, but I have expanded my research to include other faith traditions and cognitive science. Since our launch in 2023, we've been dedicated to exploring the nuances of dark nights and deconstructions, but our journey expanded to include insights from a diverse array of modern-day thinkers and artists. Through a blend of stories, practices, and perspectives, we provide valuable guidance for fellow travelers navigating their own liminal spaces. So, join us as we embark on this journey and embrace the uncertainty in order to uncover the hidden wisdom that lies within the liminal spaces of life.