In this conversation, Tom Rundel and Jeremie Wilson discuss the importance of music as a form of resistance and social commentary in today's political climate. They explore the need for local action, the challenges of honest dialogue in a polarized society, and the role of historical figures like Woody Guthrie in inspiring current activism. The discussion also delves into the songwriting process, particularly in response to social injustices, and reflects on the lyrics of their own music as a call to action. In this conversation, Tom Rundel explores the enduring relevance of classic rock music, particularly protest songs, in addressing contemporary social issues. He reflects on the historical context of songs like 'Fly Like an Eagle' and 'For What It's Worth,' discussing their messages of resistance and the importance of local action in the face of national challenges. The dialogue also delves into the deconstruction of faith within religious communities and the dynamics of power that lead to corruption. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the need for accountability in politics and the role of music in inspiring change.