This week, Tony & Michael talk about the process of making music. 

How does co-writing work? What is the role of the producer? Who is Max Martin? 

We discuss Tony's favorite artists, touring experiences, perspective on the effect co-writing has on an artist's authenticity, and more!

Some links we promise on this episode:

Drew Holcomb, Your Dreams Don't Belong To You (TED Talk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pocyxlNOxdw

This Is Max Martin playlist
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DWXDAhqlN7e6W?si=g1NynDVhS62oTDozvkIvCw

Taylor Swift, 1989
https://open.spotify.com/album/2QJmrSgbdM35R67eoGQo4j?si=qjHDyzWqRFeP22myxHqXeg

Ryan Adams, 1989
https://open.spotify.com/album/0MVK1j7wrUkBZ09ZuMURJA?si=LF-wCELxSGaTuyarr40OpQ