This episode is close to my heart because Liz isn’t just a guest—she’s a longtime friend and now a teammate at Life After Debt. We go back over a decade, through laughter, shared meals, and some of the hardest seasons of her life.

Liz opens up about facing bankruptcy in her 30s after a chronic illness, job loss, and the weight of two homes she couldn’t let go of. Years later, another financial storm hit—without bankruptcy as an option. That’s when she reached out, and together we walked through her journey of paying off debt, rebuilding stability, and reclaiming her peace.

We talk about the shame so many carry around money, the myths about debt, and the relief of having a safe place to be honest without judgment. If you’ve ever been afraid to ask for help or felt like your financial struggles are yours to hide, Liz’s story will remind you—you’re not alone, and there’s a way through.