Vanesa is dead lifting her dog and Ray is enjoying the rainy day vibes. What do Vanesa and Ray do outside of their careers? Would they still be tattoo artists if they won the lottery? After talking about plants, our hosts transition to a conversation around tattoos and the military, as well as mental health in the tattoo industry. Is there a correlation between experiencing trauma and becoming heavily tattooed? How have experiences with burnout shaped Vanesa’s and Ray’s careers? Shout Out: ...