Juergen Schmidhuber is a computer scientist and mathematician who works on artificial general intelligence and pattern recognition. He is also the founder of Garrisons, a company which creates artificial "microcosms" in which artificial intelligence can evolve. In this episode, Juergen and Lexman discuss the concept of unravelment, which is the process of eliminating unnecessary complexities from systems. They also discuss the importance of freaks in artificial intelligence, and how training artificial neural networks can cause embitterment in some specimens.