On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… a former president got indicted, and all we got was this stupid t-shirt. Writer and former federal prosecutor <a href="https://khardori.com/">Ankush Khardori</a> joins Celeste to make the case that, while historic, this indictment is not a victory for anyone; it’s far from a legal slam dunk, it’s a symptom of a sluggish Justice Department, and it might actually worsen this nation’s political divide (which, in case you haven’t noticed, is already pretty bad).  Read the pieces Ankush mentions <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/01/opinion/trump-prosecution-precedent.html">here</a> and <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/30/trump-political-witch-hunt-indictment-00089011">here</a>. Podcast production by Maura Currie You can skip all the ads in Hear Me Out by joining Slate Plus. Sign up now at <a href="http://slate.com/awordplus">slate.com/hearmeoutplus</a> for just $15 a month for your first three months. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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A feed from the Slate podcast network featuring episodes with enlightening conversations, opposing views, and plenty of healthy disputes. You'll get a curated selection of episodes from programs like What Next, The Waves, and the Political Gabfest, with deep discussions that go beyond point-counterpoint and shed light on the issues that matter most.