Let It Roll
Let It Roll
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Irving Berlin Defined American Music: Let It Roll From the Beginning... 2.11
38 minutes Posted Sep 4, 2026 at 5:00 pm.
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Host Nate Wilcox welcomes James Kaplan to discuss his book “Irving Berlin: New York Genius” — a life that runs from a Lower East Side childhood to a fifty-year career at the centre of American popular song, and then to almost thirty years of silence.
Jerome Kern’s line is the one everybody quotes, and it holds up: Berlin has no place in American music, he is American music.
Kaplan and Nate draw the comparison to Lennon and McCartney — the same work ethic, the same instinct for how a song is built — and then note the difference, which is that Berlin’s run did not stop after ten years. He was having hits in 1911 and still writing in the 1960s.
We’re relaunching Let It Roll by reposting every episode in chronological order by subject matter, this is the second season, eleventh episode.
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