Enough talking about the problem! How do we change the status quo? Marvin joins me to talk about change, honing in on staffing, and why.

Episode 4: “Is This a Lost Cause?” feat. Leslie Miley, Engineering Leader

On Legacy Recode, we'll be talking to the people who are upgrading the tech industry. The people making tech more creative, more innovative, and more exciting — by making it more diverse.