On our pilot episode, author and documentarian <a href='https://www.kevinsmokler.com/'>Kevin Smokler</a> and I talk about consequences. We also get into owning versus sharing, being ourselves, and how to think about restorative justice in a punishment-oriented world. Recommended content from this episode: Books <a href='https://bookshop.org/books/the-sum-of-us-what-racism-costs-everyone-and-how-we-can-prosper-together/9780525509561'>The Sum of Us</a> by Heather McGhee <a href='https://bookshop.org/books/the-half-has-never-been-told-slavery-and-the-making-of-american-capitalism/9780465049660'>The Half Has Never Been Told</a> by Edward E. Baptist Movies/TV <a href='https://www.hbo.com/exterminate-all-the-brutes'>Exterminate All the Brutes </a><a href='https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5836866/'>The Work </a> Video <a href='https://youtu.be/HiLtFVHR8Q0'>&quot;Restorative Welcome and Reentry Circle&quot;</a> Our intro and outro music is &quot;Humbug&quot; by <a href='https://freemusicarchive.org/music/crowander'>Crowander</a>

Erika Hall - The Business of Design

On this show, author and speaker David Dylan Thomas asks guests what they've been thinking about lately and whatever they answer, that's the show's topic.