“I made you a mixtape!” Even though Hana Zimorino started dating the guy Mikki Lunda had been living with for three years, Hana thought, really? They needed to start a band together. So Hana wooed Mikki and it worked and Needlecraft became, well, popular in some circles.

But the friendship between two charming, infectious, alpha ladies was always bigger than the band. And then, as producer of “Garage Pop Forever?” Ruth Eddy, explains to our host: Some drama intervened. Ruth also produced the short story for this episode, “The Five Second Rule.” And you know you do that, right?

Music used in this episode is all Needlecraft all the time, from the first album, Needlecraft. You can still buy it!