Jake Aycardo is a cook and entrepreneur who's opened up many food concepts since his stint at MasterChef Asia in 2015. Toni Potenciano is a brand strategist and writer who works for the design studio And-A-Half. Together they make up the team that brought Kodawari to life - a cloud kitchen concept that serves glorious Gyudon and Shroomdon.

We get into a lot in this episode: the business of running a cloud kitchen, how to have your brand adapt under these new pandemic rules, learning to trust other creatives and collaborators, anime and manga recommendations  - all these and so much more.

This is also the first of our Kwentuhan series - casual roundtable discussions between myself and other creative partners or collaborators.