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Episode 152: Jonathan Zimmerman - The Assassination of Charlie Kirk
47 minutes Posted Oct 31, 2025 at 9:00 am.
Jonathan Zimmeramn is a Professor of History of Education at the University of Pennsylvania, and the author of the books "Free Speech: And Why You Should Give a Damn" and "Whose America?: Culture Wars in the Public Schools."------------Keep Talking SubstackSpotifyApple PodcastsSocial media and all episodes------------Support via VenmoSupport on SubstackSupport on Patreon------------
intro
Polarized, pessimistic America
From Birchers to viral clicks
Decline of religion as fuel
“Love thy enemy” vs “I hate my opponents”
Cross-tribe media: why I watch Fox
Dopamine diets and tribal brains
Roots beyond social: 90s, higher ed divides
Education sorts and isolates by degree
Overlaps and humbling lessons from Fox (Ukraine, MIC)
Charlie Kirk: free-speech ideals and contradictions
Assassination & the internet underworld
Boys, meaning, and failing institutions
Digital cults, religion, and liberal education
Learned Hand’s “spirit of liberty”
Printing-press analogy, AI, and Postman’s question
Phones out K-16 and secondhand distraction
Anxiety on campus and adult responsibility
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Jonathan Zimmeramn is a Professor of History of Education at the University of Pennsylvania, and the author of the books "Free Speech: And Why You Should Give a Damn" and "Whose America?: Culture Wars in the Public Schools."------------Keep Talking SubstackSpotifyApple PodcastsSocial media and all episodes------------Support via VenmoSupport on SubstackSupport on Patreon------------(00:00) intro(00:27) Polarized, pessimistic America(02:10) From Birchers to viral clicks(05:05) Decline of religion as fuel(08:12) “Love thy enemy” vs “I hate my opponents”(10:45) Cross-tribe media: why I watch Fox(13:18) Dopamine diets and tribal brains(16:02) Roots beyond social: 90s, higher ed divides(18:40) Education sorts and isolates by degree(21:15) Overlaps and humbling lessons from Fox (Ukraine, MIC)(24:05) Charlie Kirk: free-speech ideals and contradictions(27:22) Assassination & the internet underworld(30:10) Boys, meaning, and failing institutions(33:05) Digital cults, religion, and liberal education(36:10) Learned Hand’s “spirit of liberty”(38:22) Printing-press analogy, AI, and Postman’s question(41:05) Phones out K-16 and secondhand distraction(43:38) Anxiety on campus and adult responsibility(45:30) Free-speech hypocrisy & the “American Hour” proposal