KB grabs the mic backstage at SPHERE 2026 by Atmos for two conversations that sit on either end of the same problem: how leaders should be thinking about risk in an unstable world, and what it actually looks like when a sector has been living that instability for years.First up, KB sits down with Chris Krebs, former Director of the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA). They get into the CISA cuts making headlines, why old assumptions baked into risk registers no longer hold, and the five cracks Chris sees forming in the foundation of modern risk management. He also breaks down why boards need to push vendors harder on third-party risk, and why cyber has become the opening move in every modern conflict.Then Tom Huth, Specialist in Energy Market Cyber Incident Coordination at AEMO, and Ryan McLaren, co-founder and COO of Retrospect Labs, bring it back to ground level. They unpack why the energy sector’s tight-knit supply chain has made it a genuine leader in cyber resilience, the difference between a tabletop exercise and a full functional simulation, and the trust problem nobody’s fully solved: how do you verify who’s really on the other end of the phone when your systems go down? A grounded look at what it takes to build real muscle memory before the bad day arrives.