KB grabs the mic backstage at SPHERE 2026 by Atmos for two conversations that couldn’t look more different on the surface, but end up pointing at the same thing: where cyber threats really come from, and who’s pushing back.First up, KB sits down with Lieutenant General Michelle McGuinness, Australia’s National Cybersecurity Coordinator, and Steph Way, Director of the National Office of Cybersecurity. They get into what those 60 actions under Horizon 1 actually delivered, how limited use legislation is changing the way businesses talk to government after an incident, and why cyber resilience can’t just sit with the technical few — it has to be something every Australian feels some ownership of.Then James Taliento, CEO of AFTRDRK, and Jeremy Kirk, Director of Intelligence at Okta, bring it down to ground level. Cybercrime-as-a-service has made it possible for almost anyone with a internet connection to get in the game, and the latest wave of threat actors isn’t in it for ideology or even the money. It’s the thrill, the bragging rights, and a kind of rockstar lifestyle that’s being actively sold to a younger generation. It’s a candid, practical chat about what all of that means for defenders today.