In this episode, we are joined by Mark McClain (CEO and Founder of SailPoint), as we dive deep into the pivotal role of identity as a fundamental control point and lens for understanding security in organizations. Mark emphasises that while traditional security measures such as firewalls and network security remain vital, identity security and access privileges are equally critical for protecting data and driving business momentum. Moreover, the conversation delves into the challenges of balancing convenience and security, particularly with the rise of AI and machine learning in security measures. Mark highlights the limitations of current security tools in being "identity blind," stressing the need for better tooling and processes to identify and respond to security threats more efficiently.