The verdict for this episode is: John Kelly's press briefing was not only dishonest, but evidence of his outdated beliefs.

In this episode, I discuss John Kelly's response to the phone call between Trump and the family of La David Johnson (a soldier slain in Niger). The focus of the podcast is Kelly's rant about the days when women, religion, the military, and Gold Star families were sacred. I conclude that Kelly's words indicate that he wants a society where Christian white men reign supreme.