In this episode, Jeff gets on the phone with his old friend Richard Ohlsen to discuss a mutual life-long obsession: Nintendo. The audio is a little wonky but if you can survive it you'll get to hear a couple dudes in their 30s talk about video games (then you can die happy, hopefully). Thanks for listening! Happy New Year!Thanks for listening! Jeff Grant's Evolving Podcast is available on iTunes and Soundcloud.