<p>Rob Abrahams and Rob Green are the co-founders of COAT, the&nbsp;climate positive paint company. Rob and Rob join Elliot to talk about how it feels when your grandmother invests in your company and why they believe they're not actually building a paint brand.</p>

Author and Baptist Minister Steve Chalke MBE

Jazz Shapers features interviews with founders - business shapers – who, like the shapers of jazz, soul and blues have defied convention, broken the mould and gone on to achieve great success. In each episode host Elliot Moss persuades a business pioneer to reveal their motivations, their character and how they deal with challenges and opportunities. A Jazz FM production.