How can child welfare programs advance racial equity through evaluation? This podcast follows Grace Atukpawu-Tipton, Ph.D., M.S.W., senior research associate and director of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion at James Bell Associates, as she talks with experts in racial and ethnic equity, disparity, and disproportionality in child welfare and other human service systems. Join them as they explore approaches and methods to apply an equity framework in the evaluation of child welfare programs and practices. In this third episode, Dr. Atukpawu-Tipton talks with Alan Dettlaff, Ph.D., dean and inaugural Maconda Brown O’Connor Endowed Chair of the Graduate College of Social Work at the University of Houston. Through Dr. Dettlaff’s extensive work in addressing the impacts of structural and institutional racism on children of color in child welfare, he shares his thoughts on engaging families that have experienced fear and trauma in child welfare research and evaluation, valuing and understanding qualitative data, and elevating the voices of families in the research process. This podcast is especially relevant for Children’s Bureau child welfare discretionary grantees in planning and implementing evaluations of their funded projects. It is produced and distributed by James Bell Associates on behalf of the Children’s Bureau, Administration for Children and Families, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, under contract number HHSP233201500133I.