Join Shawna and myself as we explore the trauma that impacts our communities and relations to others.

When you did you learn you were racist?

Fun laid back candid too real conversation between two diverse women who challenge each other's persepctives and explore life as women, entrepreneurs and the experience of being human.

Connect with Shawna- wildshawna.com
Connect with Margaret- margaretbellcounseling@gmail.com &amp; margaretbellcounseling.org 

Cover art by Photo by Liz Weddon on Unsplash (not Shawna and Margaret and yet represents us as women)