Kari and Barbara talk about Barbara's book Heartwood and explore what it means to live with intention, to really sit with grief, our own and others', and talk about the importance of ritual and making meaning when someone we love passes. Acknowledging that there are many different kinds of grief and ways to mourn losses, and also that there is nothing wrong with finding pockets of joy in the midst of sadness.

Barbara Becker's website and work https://barbarabecker.com/

Kari's Collective Grief and Rage Ritual Workshops https://kariodriscollwriter.com/events/

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