Ellie and Katie discuss Katie's engagement to her now-fiancé, Simon (!!) before talking at length about the 2020 election results. Ellie dishes out some ostrich facts, and Katie talks about the chonky frog-fish. Lots of rambling, as always, with Ellie and Katie discussing the challenges of being in academia during a pandemic, the scientific accuracy of SpongeBob SqaurePants, and somehow, The Sims again. Lots of colourful language and swear-words.

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