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117: Jennifer Rubin

Brought to you by Jill Wine-Banks and Victor Shi, the Intergenerational Politics Podcast tackles the issues facing our nation, asks the questions you want to be answered, and most importantly, engages all generations in politics. Jill Wine-Banks is the only woman to have served on the Watergate prosecution team, is an MSNBC Legal Analyst, and is the author of "The Watergate Girl: My Fight for Truth and Justice Against a Criminal President." Victor Shi is a sophomore at UCLA, the youngest delegate for Joe Biden in Illinois, former organizer on the Biden for President campaign, and an advocate for democratic reform.