Ryan and Clarkey welcome on longtime NHL ref/Director of Officiating, Bryan Lewis, and career umpire Jim Cressman to discuss refereeing in their day and challenges today.

They offer insight into Fred Van Vleet's recent outburst, and give stories and anecdotes on handling tough players, suggesting fixes to modern reffing challenges, and much more!

Then the guys revisit their Player's Championship picks, and further discuss reffing and the Leafs.

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