Today’s guest is Sandy. He is the Director of Pastoral Care for Redemption Church. He functions as a “pastor to the pastors” to give - especially Lead Pastors - support and encouragement. He has a long history pastoring in Arizona and the “scars” to prove it. We’re very thankful for the ways he uses his wisdom to bless Redemption.

During this episode we talk about:

• being an Arizona native 
• growing up the oldest of four boys in a complicated family
• growing up Lutheran and meeting Jesus at Arizona State University
• going all in on Jesus in college and his girlfriend (now wife) becoming a Christian too
• working for YoungLife, going to seminary and becoming a Youth Pastor
• leading a church in Pennsylvania
• the challenges of being a young lead pastor of a fast growing church
• planting Desert View (with Scottsdale Bible Church)
• his role in Redemption - “being a pastor to pastors”
• what encourages him about this generation of Church leaders - and what concerns him
• what’s fun about his ministry right now